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Trump supprters jumping off wagon

Heels09

Posted 8:15 am, 10/17/2016

Actually there is something worse than that. Take their money and benefits away. Make it illegal to accept money from outside sources. Force their salary to be the median income of the country. The only way to get a raise is to raise the median income.


Also, make drug testing for public officials mandatory. How much you want to bet that you would catch more politicians using drugs than welfare recipients.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 11:22 pm, 10/16/2016

Disagree on putting them in jail. I say we hang them by the neck until dead on the first Monday of November, then see who is still willing to run on Tuesday. Then shoot those willing dead, then take nominations from a public forum

Heels09

Posted 2:37 pm, 10/16/2016

JR like I said.... You latch on to every single right wing conspiracy. At some point try and have a original idea and thought.

Heels09

Posted 2:35 pm, 10/16/2016

When the polls expert on Fox news says that at this moment there is no chance of a trump win.... Then you know it's bad. However, we have an uneasy electorate, that shows that the process is volatile. We have seen huge shifts already, it can happen again.


Dog, every national politician should be in jail.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:20 am, 10/16/2016

People trying to bring up history when polling turned out wrong don't have a clue. The science behind polling now is light years different from how things were done even in 1979. The accuracy now thanks to the use of computers and more accurate math makes polling almost an exact science.

underdog2

Posted 8:39 am, 10/16/2016

Heels, I saw a fitting site yesterday. A hillery sign with a jail cell built all around it.

Heels09

Posted 6:16 am, 10/16/2016

You never place faith in any one poll, however the you can analyze polls to look for trends and anomalies. Much like the Romney polls showed the race narrowing much sooner than the results of the polls showed.

Trump is only winning with white males. He is struggling in almost every demographic. Not only that, when his numbers are narrowing in southern predominantly Republican states... That spells trouble.

You can deny this all you want. Clinton could care less about Utah. She was not counting on Utah in the first place. It's irrelevant.

jrscott295

Posted 1:10 am, 10/16/2016

With the collusion between the media and the Clinton campaign I wouldn't take anything for granted. The polls could prove to be correct or they may not.

Polls use different methodology. This is usually based on historic trends so whenever something doesn't follow that throws it off. There were polls in 2012 that showed Mitt Romney would win even up to just a couple weeks before the election, however the pollsters had misjudged in particular one misstep by the Romney campaign. Locking out Ron Paul supporters from the RNC because they didn't want a dissenting voice largely cost Romney that election. It inflamed Paul's supporters that many voted with Johnson or just stayed home. While his numbers weren't astounding that 3-5% of Ron Paul die hards who chose someone else on election day 2012 is what caused Romney to lose, it was just enough in the swing states to give Obama the victory.

This year in the mountain west Mormons have largely been turned off to both Trump and Clinton. They find both repulsive. Polls show that Evan McMullin is doing well where there is a high Mormon population. Normally folks don't always follow through on a 3rd Party candidate, half of those in polls that say they will vote 3rd party usually back out on election day, either they just don't show up or they pick either the R or D candidate. McMullin though may not be a typical case with two equally despised candidates and if the Mormons show up in sufficient numbers he could easily win UT and NM. It is even possible he could win ID and AZ (though AZ is a stretch since he's only a write in candidate) because if enough Mormons voted for him they have a strong enough segment of the population that he could win over the 2 main party candidates. I don't see a path where he wins an electoral majority (though however improbable it is possible) but he could be on a ballot if the election goes to the House.

I see Clinton as the greatest threat to our country both foreign and domestic in probably several generations. Folks thinking she's going to be Bill are mistaken and have not studied her. Pretty much any of the others are preferable to her. Sadly in North Carolina we have 4 choices: Clinton, Johnson, Stein (write in only) and Trump. Essentially it's chose your poison.

underdog2

Posted 8:47 pm, 10/15/2016

Heels it would be ill advised to place any faith and by all means any money on any poll.

Heels09

Posted 5:38 pm, 10/15/2016

Polling techniques are much better than in 1980 and definitely 1948. That was a long post just to say that you are in denial of the polls showing trump will lose.

jrscott295

Posted 5:54 am, 10/15/2016

I'm all for term limits, but Congress will never impose them on themselves. Only way we get the Constitution amended for that would be an Article V Convention where it was passed by the Convention and then 36 states.

As for who will win.

In 1980 the polls showed Carter would win right up almost til the day of election, he lost in a landslide to Reagan.

In 1948 the polls showed Dewey would beat Truman......some papers even printed that headline but Truman won not Dewey.

There is a bit of uncertainty, you can't be sure how many Democrats cross to vote for Trump and you can't really calculate how many Republicans decide to vote for Johnson or someone else. Thus there is no real way to predict this election prior to voting.

Is this a 1980 or 1948 style election? If so Trump will win and probably big. If not Clinton may well win.

If someone else actually gets EV and no one gets the required number to win it goes to the House. Depending who had the third most EV you could still have Trump or Clinton (Depending who controls the House) or someone else if they find number 3 more favorable. I mention that because polling right now shows that Trump and Clinton could actually both lose Utah. Though normally that wouldn't be enough EV to prevent someone from winning a majority you can't be sure in this case. About half the people who claim they will vote 3rd party, vote for two major parties or fail to show up at the polls historically.

LaQuisha

Posted 12:31 am, 10/15/2016

Nobody, "jumps off wagon" unless they prepared beforehand. Republicans have allegedly not spent any money on Trump ads. They spent $42 million on Romney.

Local pride

Posted 10:07 am, 10/14/2016

Term limits for all elected officials- put this in effect and believe me folks the rest of the nonsense will be just that......

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 9:40 am, 10/14/2016

I knew that would be your reply

jrscott295

Posted 1:53 am, 10/14/2016

Not really.

I know some make that claim for the Federal Reserve as well. However there have been more depressions since it was created, than before it.

As for moving off the gold standard, wages and prices deflated more often than inflated under it, today wages and prices inflate more under the fiat currency than deflate. The scare was that the European banks were already calling in for the gold, as they had all converted to fiat currency, we were one of the last hold outs. Nixon knew there was not enough gold in Fort Knox to actually pay all outstanding bills. He feared if to many called in for gold then it would collapse the dollar entirely.

It is true that it was done through Executive Order, however that Order was also based on a Congressional Report demanding devaluation of the dollar. Just Congress never actually voted to devalue it. Thus technically that order is unconstitutional as it was the executive branch exercising legislative authority. However Nixon wasn't the first to use such orders to enact legislation. The Proclamation Emancipation is a good example of another such instance. (Later the Amendments to the Constitution constitutionally backed the Proclamation Emancipation though).

It's one reason I kinda laugh to myself when I hear politicians promise I'm going to rescind all the illegal Executive Orders but people have no idea how much could change if we actually did remove all such unconstitutional orders, after all the Constitution only allows the president to issue orders to the Army and Navy (and yes I mean just the Army and Navy......not the Air Force or Marines as it's never been amended).

Heels09

Posted 8:28 am, 10/13/2016

Its funny, he used an executive order to change the currency. Possibly the biggest change in our government economic policy was changed by an executive order. That crazy dictator.


It is only a failure if the government collapses and refuses to back the dollar. Under the gold standard we had the depression and erratic inflation. Inflation has stabilized since regardless of the crap that Ron Paul calls economics.

jrscott295

Posted 1:26 am, 10/13/2016

Richard Nixon was the last president to actually balance the budget. Bill Clinton (and Newt Gingrich) used budgetary gimmickry by moving certain items to off budget to claim they balanced the budget, which they didn't really do.

Nixon made several decisions that highly impacted the United States for decades. Particularly with the regards to space exploration. Without Nixon there never would have been a Space Shuttle, or a Skylab. Thus the idea of a international space station probably would never have happened.

His greatest failing though wasn't Watergate, it was separating the dollar from gold. Prior to our fiat money system in time prices deflated, inflation is a result of fiat currency. We traded one ill for another. One that is much harder to deal with. I understand why he did it, however he could merely have changed the exchange rate compared to gold and kept us on the gold standard.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:30 pm, 10/11/2016

At least Breibart and Drudge have had some real reporting moments. Remember, Breibart let the world see Anthony's wiener.

Bluheel

Posted 10:27 pm, 10/11/2016

Alex Jones and Breitbart with a little Drudge for dessert......

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:03 pm, 10/11/2016

The fact that you agree with Alex Jones at all discredits you

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