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Tom L.
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Posted 4:11 pm, 09/25/2015
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backwater
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Posted 11:45 am, 09/25/2015
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Big Brother is in charge and is gonna keep it that way! Homeland Security will keep it that way.
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Basking
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Posted 8:19 pm, 09/24/2015
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It should be possible to piggy back on the bremco system. If they couldn't use the same radio system, at the very least the fiber would have enough bandwidth to handle a second radio network. The problem though is the state would not approve this, so the county would be on their own to finance it. The biggest problem in government now is the idea that state and nation wide standards are the best methods instead of crafting correct solutions for each area. Our needs and Charlotte's needs aren't the same.
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underdog2
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Posted 8:00 pm, 09/24/2015
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I would say their substations would be a great place to put cell towers but Douggie would only use the money to buy another box at a stadium for the board and invited guests.
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Joseph T.
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Posted 7:48 pm, 09/24/2015
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Dog its not just a low ban freq, Have you notice that fiber optic cable that BREMCO has been running on the power pole with their wire? They lead back to the substations where they are hooked to antennas as they have been building one big interconnected communications systems that has antennas everywhere.
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underdog2
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Posted 5:31 pm, 09/24/2015
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The words "promises" and reduce dead spots" means the county is about to be carried on another ride. Joseph is right get a frequency close to bremco or the low band like the johnny troopers.
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Joseph T.
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Posted 4:20 pm, 09/24/2015
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They should get on BREMCOs radio system I have yet to see a place where there radios didn't work.
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Tom L.
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Posted 2:59 pm, 09/24/2015
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Tom L.
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Posted 3:53 pm, 08/14/2015
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The radio system in Ashe has never been up to par, and I doubt it ever will be.
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underdog2
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Posted 8:49 pm, 08/12/2015
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Thus the need for multiple repeaters for us.
Remember the world trade center killed firemen and women because their radios were useless in that building.
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whocaresaboutit
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Posted 8:40 pm, 08/12/2015
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Information from a motorola site
In rural areas, VHF lowband signals have the best range because they tend to follow the curvature of the earth. VHF highband signals have good range characteristics. The UHF and 800/900 MHz bands have only fair range characteristics because signals in this range can be attenuated by foliage and mountain terrain found in rural areas. VHF bands are the best choices for use in rural areas.
In urban areas, VHF lowband signals have poor range because they cannot penetrate buildings. Also, urban areas tend to have high levels of noise interference which affects lowband signals. VHF highband signals have good range characteristics and the UHF band and 800/900 MHz bands have excellent range characteristics because their signals can bounce off of, and penetrate buildings. 800/900 MHz bands are a good choice in urban areas.
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Tom L.
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Posted 2:30 pm, 08/12/2015
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Personally i care what they use, it's no skin off my arse either way!! 
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underdog2
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Posted 12:24 pm, 08/12/2015
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You are so right from the perspective of a dump truck driver that doesnt know the johnny troopers still use the low band system.
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Tom L.
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Posted 8:38 am, 08/12/2015
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Actually probably better, but we won't get into that.. 
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underdog2
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Posted 4:10 pm, 08/11/2015
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My point is they are attempting to replace it with a system that does not work well.
Tommie your cb would work as well in most parts of the county.
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Tom L.
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Posted 2:16 pm, 08/11/2015
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The state of the State's low band system is a wing and a prayer in some most cases. Some of the base stations are 50+ years old, and probably none are less than 25-30. The mobiles range from 20-30, and since the major radio manufacturers are no longer building low band base stations and hardly any are building mobiles, the future of low band is bleak.
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Tom L.
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Posted 2:15 pm, 08/11/2015
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I do know that most of if not all the trooper cars in the Troop F still have the big fender mounted ball antennas. I asked why they still had them and the rest of the state has discontinued them. I was told that due to the mountainous terrain the fender mounted antennas provided the best coverage. With the new budget being passed and all most $ 3K being allotted for new 800 Mhz. radios who knows. I do know there is a push to install 800 Mhz. radios in all SHP Patrol units across the state. What they will do with the low band stuff is anybody's guess. I also know that the Troop radio shops are having to scrounge parts from other Motorola X-9000's just to keep all the current working radios in use operational. I figure one day you will eventually see a whole lot of pallet lots of Motorola X-9000's appearing on the state surplus auction site. I have seen both low band Motorola Maratracs and Motorola MT-1000' s before. I know that most of the forestry service has done auctioned off most if not all of their low band stuff. Low Band is great, but is a thing of the past.
Those base loaded low band antennas mounted on a bracket create a 2.8 to 3 db loss compared to the 1/4 wave whips according to the antenna manufacturers. There's a top view photo from one of the manufacturers showing an efficiency comparison of antenna locations on a sedan that can be found by a bit of Googling. In fact, it shows that where the NCSHP mounts that base loaded antenna on the rear fender is the worst location possible.NCSHP got some of the surplus Syntor X9000s from the NCFS not long after they were removed from the NCFS vehicles. The ones I have direct knowledge of were mostly used to replace many of those miserable other brands of low band radios that were continual unreliable pains-in-the-butt. The state has made the decision to not spend any money maintaining the low band system and is cannibalizing units for parts, and that's just as well since GE and Motorola low band parts are now made of Unobtainium. The MaraTracs and Syntor X9000s are both very obsolete, but are still very reliable and still in use for the time being. Once VIPER is 100% operational mobile, portable, and site-wise, NCSHP low band will become history.
The base station is controlled with a microwave uplink from the comm center, and the receiver audio goes back to the comm center on the microwave downlink. Since the mobile traffic is not repeated (full duplex) over the dispatch frequency, you won't hear the mobile unit's traffic unless you have a good low band antenna and you are relatively close to the mobile unit transmitting.
The low band system is semi-duplex for car-to-base and base-to-car. In other words, the base station transmits on one frequency, receives on another, but the received traffic is not repeated. When units talk car-to-car, they are able to switch to a base station transmit frequency to talk, and that mode is simplex and is referred to as "3 way". The pair for Troop F is 42.600 for base-to-car and 42.660 for car-to-base. "3 way" or car-to-car is 42.600 simplex.
Look in the database and you'll find the respective frequency pairs that each comm center uses to communicate with the cars on low band. There are 9 base station pairs and one simplex Events channel which is called Channel 19. That one gets a good bit of use in some areas.
The 800 MHz trunked radio system called VIPER has already superseded the low band system in Troop A, and also some areas in other troop zones. Eventually VIPER will supersede the rest of the low band system as the VIPER system is completed, and low band will be done away with.
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Tom L.
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Posted 2:07 pm, 08/11/2015
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Underwear,you have your opinion, and I have mine.
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underdog2
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Posted 1:15 pm, 08/11/2015
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Tommie, the johnny troopers are still on low band. They talk from one side of the state to the other.
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