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The Man with the Plan

Posted 1:04 pm, 06/28/2018

Top 10% of highest risk?! Wow

The Mole

Posted 4:04 pm, 06/23/2018

I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about other than the sheriff's department kills two individuals and the resulting lawsuits cost the insurance company a million or so dollars and the insurance company drop the county policy like a hot rock.

Lurker2

Posted 8:07 pm, 06/22/2018

Mole - there really are three kinds of municipal or county risk

1. Geographic related risks (coastal counties and hurricanes, mountain counties and snow, etc., etc.,)

2. HR and Service related risks (are you able to fire people effectively and follow proper procedures and are your service providers competent and well reasoned)

3. Elected and Appointed Official stupidity (Is a majority of the Board abjectly stupid, is the Manager a horses' *** and blow hard or just plain dumb)


Element three is the easiest to control - your fire the manager who is dumb or a blow hard or an ***, and the Board members keep their mouths shut about personal, and quasi judicial matters. There is an art to letting people go and it's predicated on documentation, following your own rules, and mercy at the end. You would be surprised how often two months severance helps a bad apple go away. Law enforcement is going to kill someone sooner or later and the water and sewer department is going to damage private property sooner or later.

The common thread in the recent litigation is stupid and or dumb decisions.

jack rip her

Posted 2:48 pm, 06/22/2018

I know this is the Houck thread but I just noticed today that the Dallas Shatley heirs lost Dallas house to foreclosure before the lawsuit could be settled. Its quite modestly priced at 375,000. And of course Capital bank now The bank of Tennessee hired a hayseed Wilkes county realtor to market the property.

The Mole

Posted 10:29 am, 06/22/2018

So now we're in the top 10% of highest risk in NC. That's great news and I'm sure our premiums will reflect that rating, but who cares if us taxpayers are footing the bill. Geez.

Lurker2

Posted 6:20 pm, 06/20/2018

Currently there are 109 members of the CCA Risk Pool http://www.ncacc.org/320/About-the-Pool

With 100 counties, Butner, and the Cherokee and their various independent or quasi independent agencies, boards, and commissions, there are about 1000-1200 potential members so the Pool tends to represent those that present the highest 10% of risk and are still trusted to pay the premium and attempt to prevent what happened to cause them to get this way from happening again.


Cities and Towns have their own high risk pool on the other side of the building.

The Mole

Posted 9:06 pm, 06/19/2018

Based on the resolution passed at Monday's meeting, it looks like their having to join the county association's risk pool. Wow.

onlyinashe

Posted 6:50 am, 06/19/2018

Regardless of the type of insurance the County has, the existing company will be on the hook for any cases they have been placed on notice for. It should not be a surprise that the County's general liability carrier would issue a non-renewal notice based on claims history, it will either be that or an increase in the rates so high that the County has to work elsewhere. This will be the gift that keeps on giving for a number of years, settlements and judgement take 5-7 years to roll off the underwriters rate schedule.

The Mole

Posted 7:54 pm, 06/18/2018

I heard from a very reliable source that the county may have to switch insurance companies this year because of all the payouts the insurance company has had to make for the county - and the Shatley lawsuit hasn't even been settled yet or at least it hasn't made the news.

Olejoe

Posted 9:01 pm, 06/07/2018

This is a topic neither Absher or Howell ...... or their supporters...... should want to bring up at election time. It and the Shatley case are both very sad for all involved.

onlyinashe

Posted 6:45 am, 06/06/2018

From past experience, assisting in the defense of several wrongful action suits, the plaintiff's attorney will write the complaint as if the person being sued were the worst scum to ever walk the face of the earth. Words are carefully chosen, statements are made which appear to be facts, all in an attempt to make the case against the defendant seem to be a slam dunk.


What you have to remember is that the document you read has not be heard before a jury, no allegation has been proven as fact, it is just a well paid attorney doing his job to extract a settlement from the named defendants. Many times cases are filed which name many defendants some of whom have no or very limited involvement in the case, this tactic preserves the plaintiff's ability to collect information and fill out the case against the principal defendants. You'll often see defendants dropped from a case prior to settlement or trial because the plaintiff has not gathered enough hard evidence to move forward.

A $400,000 settlement in a wrongful death action brought in Ashe County is a slam dunk for the plaintiff's attorney. The County's insurance company also will count this as a win, they have settled the suit for an amount which is less than 2 times the cost of defense.

Prada

Posted 6:24 am, 06/06/2018

I wonder if he settled with them on the side? I saw the lawsuit posted somewhere online when it was first filed and Brandon Howell's actions that it outlined sounded pretty irresponsible and I'm really surprised he was dropped from it.

Raeford

Posted 4:09 pm, 06/05/2018

The allegations against Howell were dropped before the settlement.

jack rip her

Posted 8:03 am, 06/05/2018

It was settled to the tune of almost 400 thousand. Bufurt released the exact amount.

onlyinashe

Posted 6:31 am, 06/05/2018

Has there been a disposition to this case? If there is no disposition then this is just an accusation.

Enlightened1

Posted 4:39 pm, 06/04/2018

https://bloximages.chicago2...0d.pdf.pdf

Hopefully this link works for you

jack rip her

Posted 4:29 pm, 06/04/2018

google Mark Houck lawsuit and you will find it on an old edition of the ashe post.

jack rip her

Posted 4:22 pm, 06/04/2018

Its on this site somewhere. I may get bored and look in a little while.

billythemountain

Posted 2:39 pm, 06/04/2018

Pacer.gov

You’ll have to set up an account and pay a small fee, but it’s there.

justmyop

Posted 2:14 pm, 06/04/2018

Does anybody have or can tell me where to find a copy of the Houck lawsuit the family filed against the sheriffs dept after he was killed?

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