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Heels09

Posted 9:52 am, 09/27/2017

That is exactly right Fins. Neither party can figure our how to respond to these protest, because deep down it is a protest against both parties. So instead of addressing the issue, they have created a diversion over the protest itself. In fact, both parties just want them to go away. There was reason you saw the owners speak out against Trump and take up for the players. It was damage control, because they want it to go away as well.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 9:41 am, 09/27/2017

Sonnie Johnson had a great monologue a few weeks ago on the radio one Saturday. I wish I could find it, because I'm afraid I will screw it up trying to recall it. She blamed the Republican Party for forgetting their own history on the civil rights and writing off the black vote assuming they will vote democrat no matter what. And she blamed the democrat party for putting her people in zoos and feeding them out of buckets.

Heels09

Posted 9:15 am, 09/27/2017

JR you read my post but did not comprehend it. I said both parties failed. The difference is that can see that but you still have enough republican bias that you will not admit that the republicans are part of the problem as well. Even though they did not vote for them they still represent those people. All politicians have forgot that. The day after the election the campaign should be over. The person who won represents every single person in their district, state, and country. Both parties turn a blind eye to those that did not support them and that has made this country ungovernable. That has to stop. The entire reason I do not vote republican in national elections is because they have the same attitude you do. That attitude lacks compassion towards people. That attitude stereotypes people as lazy.


Now, I admit the failed policies of the democrat party. In the beginning those policies had good intentions, now they have become nothing more than false promises to keep the minority vote. However, those programs still do good for people and need to be reformed not cut. You are correct we can not draw everyone out of poverty but we sure as **** can do a better job than we do now. That is were the Republican party has failed. They have had their opportunities for reform just like Obamacare, yet they have no solutions. Cutting without regard to who it hurts is immoral and their are at least a few Republicans that understand that.

Everyone know the BS about the civil right vote. I mean really? It took both parties to come together and defeat the Southern democrats. It was a bipartisan effort, as it should have been not a talking point 40 years later because one party got more votes than the other. You know what happened, those racist didn't just disappear, they are now inside the republican party and we have seen that they are still alive and well. Now, I did not call the republican party racist, but there is a faction inside that is racist. Those very racist come right out of the democrat party when Barry Goldwater decided to sympathize with those southern democrats.

I have worked in public service, I know the hardships of people. I went to a house in Stokes county to deliver supplies to a black lady with Cancer. Her teen age boys working part time at minimum wage jobs trying to keep what little they had. All because her cancer was considered a preexisting condition. So she lost her house and was living in a 3 room shack with dirt floors trying to take chemo. There was no one coming to her aide. She got a little welfare check, and that went to hospital bills. We failed her, all of us, by buying into the political BS that haunts our county. Both parties should be ashamed that in a country a rich as our that we continue to fail our people.

We can keep on fighting these stupid battles over how to fix things and actually fix them. I am fed up with both parties. I have said before we now have two governments and neither one will recognize the other as the legitimate government. Trump has had opportunities to bring this country closer together and has failed miserably at every opportunity. And as a person that does vote more with the democrats I am ashamed of every single one of them. As a matter of fact the only 3 politicians I have respect for is Bernie Sanders, John McCain, and Lindsey Graham.

Olejoe

Posted 12:33 am, 09/27/2017

Nice post jr.

jrscott295

Posted 11:59 pm, 09/26/2017

Why would the Republicans give them the time of day when they lock step vote for Democrats as a block of 85% no matter what Republicans do. After all the Civil Rights Bill was passed with more GOP votes than Democrat ones, it was just a Democrat president who signed it. It was a GOP president who forced the issue on slavery and died because of it.

In large part these communities have brought it on themselves. They've voted for the same party for 50 years, and they are worse off than they were 50 years ago in many respects. They should of listened to Malcolm X, if that politician hasn't done what he promised in the last 2 years, vote for someone else because he's never going to do it.

LBJ's War on Poverty has done more to hurt these people than pretty much any other federal program except perhaps the War on Drugs (which was Nixon's).

Also there is no way you ever draw everyone out of poverty. In fact Poverty rates in the United States have remained relatively unchanged for the last 50 years as a percent of the population. Yes there are variations but the mean average is no change. It's also not just a Black Man's world, there are many Whites particularly in the Appalachians who also live under poverty. Some choose that lifestyle because they see it easier than dealing with corporate America. I know folks who pretty much hunted and fished and lived off their land. They had no real income but were well taken care of.

The greatest failure is we pay many urbanites to remain in poverty. We have no real need of immigrant labor, we have a workforce in the inner cities that could do the work many immigrants come to do such as harvesting crops but they don't want to do it.

Heels09

Posted 2:58 pm, 09/26/2017

JR its not about themselves per say, but its about the communities they come from. Its no different than the issues we have here in Ashe, but they feel as if they are not being heard. And they aren't. We have spoken before about the failed policies of the democrats in these areas. However they don't trust the republicans because they have had no compassion in the past. Most of these guys do excellent work in the communities. Kaepernick started last year and has given $100,000 to a different charity each month. Anquan Boldin has started his own foundation. The list goes on and on.


Now we are in agreement that these communities have to lift themselves out of they cycle of poverty, yet they need the help and infrastructure to do so. Stop with the handouts and pity speeches from out politicians. Create programs that work.

People in poverty do not have the same opportunities as others. Its as plain as that. Its not about race per say because look in our own community. Most of the crime here is committed by poor white people. However, when we see minorities with a much higher crime rate, poverty rate, unemployment rate, and wage gap, how do you expect them to respond? I am not saying everyone is racist, or that whites are privileged, I am saying that we are failing to address the problems. The country as a whole keeps running from the problems. Democrats want to give them just enough money to get votes and Republicans turned their backs on them years ago.

As I just stated, these players have no end game. They have the attention, but they don't have anyone that is willing to stand up and take the next step. If we had true leaders in Washington, they would be addressing this with an open mind on what can changed? How can we make a better tomorrow? All we have is a larger group of privileged politicians that want to keep the status quo included our President

pointman

Posted 1:23 pm, 09/26/2017

What jrscott said!

jrscott295

Posted 1:09 pm, 09/26/2017

What inequalities?

That a bunch of football players making a minimum of 5 times the national median income are protesting that America isn't fair?

I mean seriously have they even thought of what their message is?

Perhaps if they wanted to exact real change they'd be donating their excessive salaries to educational programs that target the people they want to help. Don't get me wrong there are NFL players who have given back much to their communities, JJ Watt being probably the most prevalent example in the last few months, and others have helped their communities, but some don't do that. Some take their millions, blow it on fancy houses, fancy cars, drugs and women.

To many of these folks have listened to men like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, wanting to play a victim card and wanting someone else to lift them up. They should have been paying more attention to Frederick Douglas, Booker T. Washington and Martin Luther King, Jr and lifting themselves up.

There was no Hands Up Don't Shoot in Ferguson. That's a media lie folks have bought into. The guy, Brown, was a thug no simple ways about it and he charged a police officer. That's the truth.

There is actually less Police on Black Crime than their proportion of the population would suggest would be the baseline. Instances of White on Black crime is very low, in fact Black on White Crimes is far more prevalent though in both cases it is far more common for Whites to commit crimes on Whites and Blacks on Blacks. When White on Black crime is committed it's blown out of proportions, made front page news for weeks (like that White Man in Charleston who shot up the Black Church), but when the opposite happens like this week when a Black on White crimes is committed it's shoved under the carpet (This time it was a Black immigrant who shot up a White Church in Tennessee).

Life is unfair, Life will always be unfair. The key isn't doing more for the people that need lifting up, in fact doing so much for them is why they need more lifting up, as Mark Twain once commented, The more I travel the more I'm convinced the more you do for a man that which he aught to do for himself, the more I'm convinced he will do nothing.

proud native

Posted 1:01 pm, 09/26/2017

I agree aficionados they need to take their money and do something to make a difference.. good point

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:53 pm, 09/26/2017

Oh, here's another question. What exactly are they trying to bring awareness to?

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:52 pm, 09/26/2017

So swanky, it's like wearing a pink ribbon and hoping cancer goes away. It gives someone a warm and fuzzy feeling, but does nothing.

Jim Brown told Kapernack, if you want to be a football player, be a football player. If you want to be an activist, then take your money and be an activist. Kapernack has plenty of time on his hands now to go and do something to actually make a difference.

Heels09

Posted 12:49 pm, 09/26/2017

Exactly Fins, what is the end game? They have the attention of the whole country at the moment. Everyone is listening...its time they start talking and addressing possible solutions.

swanky

Posted 12:41 pm, 09/26/2017

Brings awareness. Doesn't fix the problem and we both know that. Neither does burning the flag or acts of violence.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:30 pm, 09/26/2017

But what does kneeling do to fix the problem?

swanky

Posted 12:22 pm, 09/26/2017

Very unfortunate that some are missing the point of the protest. It's not about disrespect to the FLAG or VETERANS that serve this beautiful country. The protest are meant to bring awareness to the inequalities that continue to exist in the country. Moreover, many ppl need to wake the heck up and acknowledge the disparities in this county as well as OUR COMMUNITY! PPL are suffering right here in Ashe and surrounding counties.

jrscott295

Posted 2:21 am, 09/26/2017

The NFL rules only require the players to be on the field 10 minutes prior to kickoff. Most of the time the Anthem is held 15 minutes before kickoff, so there is no real NFL requirement they be on the field at the time.

In truth had the NFL not in the last decade accepted money and moved to make a more patriotic start they probably wouldn't have had the blowback. I mean it's not like the Army paid them a significant amount of money, it wasn't even .01% of their total revenues those years. The NFL could of said, no we aren't going to do it, but they accepted the money and did it. That raised expectations for many.

While this is going on no one probably heard about that shooting in the Church in TN......but this gives the media a chance not to report on things that doesn't fit its agenda, they love attacking America but the fact an armed parishioner was able to stop the attack before more bloodshed doesn't fit their agenda.

proud native

Posted 11:13 pm, 09/25/2017

Really, jack gave you away a long time ago.. and so did your pal Jason

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:45 pm, 09/25/2017

You still don't have a clue

proud native

Posted 10:32 pm, 09/25/2017

BS

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:06 pm, 09/25/2017

Sometimes I like to see if anyone will catch it

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