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coop I dont know why I didn't tell you this a while back. Have your buddy tell the state/boone to provide him with a list of property owners and what they are going to pay them. After all its a public record.

It untold what they are paying over on 21 from roaring gap to sparta.

The Town of Boone has surveyed and staked the right of way they need on Brownwood Road. Orange flags.

Yogi, go back and reread what I said. Read it over and over until you figure out, that's exactly what I said. It's all about the attitude you outsiders have when suggesting your "improvements"

Yogi, you failed to mention the research provided by two others that prove ocm not to have covered all the bases. Also back a bit ocm was schooled by pointman on the boone waste.

Btw the mommy basement thing is so worn out. Just to let you know come up with something more original.

Well, Basking is it? It would all be the manner in which you suggested the changes in my decor. If I knew your experience would be of help to me, then I would listen, take notes, and learn. With a chip on my shoulder, I'll not learn anything about improvement and that's the greatest lacking in Ashe County. You can't learn and improve while being defensive of what you don't understand. Yogi, that's original. And with that, shouldn't you be off to mom's basement for the evening?

Yogi, let me as you a question. If I walk into your house and start telling you you've decorated it all wrong and you should be raising your kids differently, are you going to offer me a lemonade? Or are you going to tell me get the **** out? There are problems in the area. Lack of embracing education being a big one. we natives take pride in our area and try to fix what we can. But if you are going to come in and start telling us we are a bunch of dumb*** hillbillies and you know better and can save us from our selves, then best thing you can do is get back down the mountain before the sun sets on you. We still have people living from generations when life here was d**n hard. Harder than anything you urban dwelling flat landers could survive. Our families were here long before you and figured out how to get by pretty good without your type.

OldCityManager, you bring logic, real statistics, and experience to the discussions on this site. The statistics you posted concerning level of education, average income, etc., speaks volumes toward the idea that many Ashe County citizens don't like for "outsiders" to come in and point out obvious problems that they, themselves, aren't sharp enough to fix. Look throughout the community and see who the people are that had enough energy and intelligence to step up to the plate and provide leadership to organizations, committees, and government. Many are not from Ashe, and it really grinds their gears. I always love the "if you don't like it here, go back to where you came from" argument. That is a true admission of ignorance when that's all they have left.

ASU has a water intake on Howards creek which pumps water to a fairly large man made lake on Rainbow trail which is just across 194 from the Watauga BOE. They how ever have no sewer treatment plant and use Boones this is the reason that Boone has had to enlarge the towns plant twice in the last 15 or 20 years. What they did before Boone built a plant I have no idea

To be fair, ASU has their own facilities. They had water and sewer before the town of Boone did. Their intake is on Howards Creek off of 194. Not sure where their waste water is discharged. That would have been built back before the law required it to go back in the same body that it came from

The overall number of homes that have drain fields that MIGHT leach into the river and its' tributaries is very small compared to the amount of waste water that would come out of ASU. Add to that the fact that pharmaceuticals are not targeted in the wastewater treatment process and I, for one, will pass on having the water intake located in Todd. given that Jefferson's water intake is downstream, it very well could have an effect on Jefferson's drinking water that would not be evident for many years to come.

Sorry chest thumper, this is the name I've had. I just read posts for a long time. Unlike you, I know how a septic tank works. There's a couple factors that you have missed with their operation. Let's see if you can ever figure it out.

Regarding those cities you praise so much, why is it that they all have rural and suburban sprawl outside the city limits? People driving hours to work so they don't have to live in the urban area and with the extra restrictions? Because in the south as a whole, we don't like cities.

As for asbestos, someone should tell them that disturbing the stuff (like tearing down a building) is when it's dangerous. Leaving it sealed and undisturbed, it's not a problem. (The military still uses asbestos, especially the navy in subs and nuclear powered ships). But, if the board knew how to do the math, it's very likely that they could find that the maintenance on a 50+ year old government building may out weigh the cost of a new building. But they should be truthful and factual.

Ocm you are far too smart to fall for the smoke that the school board has blown up the commissioners butts concerning the middle school. There are more 50+ year old school buildings across the state than you and I care to count. The septic and water are just fine at the current location and my understanding is the school is not over crowded. Until they can come up with logical reasons that school is just fine.

I made a mistake yesterday when I told you there were two towns when actually there are three. I left out Lansing.

Baskin, why did you change your name? Too many folks get tired of your negativity and inability to actually undertake an argument without name calling and dissembling?

Baskin, you obviously do not know how a septic tank works. The liquid from the tank flows out of the tank in a drain field with the chemicals still in the fluid It doesn't take a straight pipe to move the chemicals to the river.

Dog, the urban areas of Ashe County need to be in one service unit and as one unit they are more able to provide useful services through an economy of scale. The fact of the matter is that many areas outside the towns are getting the benefit of Town police services. They are getting the benefit of Town maintained streets. There is a tax benefit they get through the cost of fire services as the more urban areas underwrite the greater costs of the rural areas.

I realize that such a merger and consolidation is not political possible in western NC. Communities in Western NC historically have difficulty getting along with each other as so many of these communities were born of a "breaking off" like a Baptist Church. The Wilkesboro's are a good example of such a waste.

The examples of Winston-Salem, Eden, Sanford, and others east of I-77 could be instructive.

As to the cost, JL and Mountain Aire already have water. JL has sewer. Warrensville and Smethport need water and sewer if Warrensville is to host a replacement middle school to get rid of the one filled with Asbestos and lead paint.

The analogy of Baptist Churches is very apt here. When churches break off into small groups their fund raising ends up paying for a new building and the preacher and the pianist, etc. There is less money for works and outreach. Catholic, Methodist and Presbyterian churches don't operate this way and usually have more resources to bring to problems.

"Independence" is not free unless you have found a way to be an economic "free rider". This is why housing subdivisions spring up to existing cities and towns - they can free ride on the nearby public streets, they can depend on police backup to the sheriff's department, and they can often depend on municipal zoning protection - they are economic free riders. Getting the amenities without paying the taxes is the American way.

Sorry, my head is where I can very plainly see what the problems are. Your's however is clearly planted up your own ***. You've also spent too much time in those cities you praise, because obviously septic tanks is another subject you are ill informed on. We did away with dumping them into the river more than 50 years ago. Don't take it out on me that farmer made you look like an idiot regarding pharmaceuticals. Of course, if memory serves, you've been schooled on here more than once in the past on water and waste treatment facilities and how they actually work.

But hey, you figured out how to edit your posts and cut out most of the unneeded ramblings. So, we've made some progress.

Farmer, the problem of pharmaceuticals is irrelevant to the Water issue in Boone. Those chemicals are entering the river via septic tanks, farms and other point sources. They are entering the river today. Boone's intake of this surface water sets in motion the ability to treat more of this stuff, rather than just allowing it to flow.

Baskin, my wife is from Ashe County and she confirms to me that people like you are key to Ashe's problems. Short sighted, parochial, insulated from reality.

http://factfinder.census.go...tml?src=CF

21% of Ashe County residents live below the poverty line compared to a State average of 17.5%

The average age of people in Ashe County is a very old 46.3 compared to a State average of 35.9.

Only 81% of Ashe County's population has a high school diploma compared to 85% statewide.

The median family income in Ashe County is only $37.5K compared to a State average of $45.4.

Keep your head buried in the dirt Baskin. Pretty soon it will turn to compost.

The EPA hasn't conducted nearly enough testing on excreted pharmaceuticals that are untreated for anyone to make the claim that they aren't harmful to humans who consume the water. There was an article today concerning this very topic in relation to fish in Lake Michigan:
http://www.wisn.com/news/dr...h/32854186
And if you will read the Reuters series on the use of medicated feed in the food production line and the adverse effects to humans that are just now coming to light, you may be singing a different tune. It takes years before the effects of things like this actually come to light - years after humans have ingested and been exposed to the hazards.
http://www.reuters.com/inve...to-humans/

And that attitude is part of the problem......