onlyinashe
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Posted 6:29 am, 04/25/2018
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A market study for hanger rentals may be in order to determine fair market value for our units. Wilkes, Watauga, Johnson county Tn all have airports which could be used for comps. Does Ashe collect some sort of property tax for the planes parked at the airport? Are there departure and landing fees? Just wondering what the sources of revenue might be for the facility.
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jrscott295
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Posted 1:51 am, 04/25/2018
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Fairplay is correct on the Marine motto of the time.
FINS is correct, there is no way those people would pay 800 a month, we might could get 300 a month though, and I do agree it is far to low at 175.
They are wanting to build a new tower now, so the costs of the airport will be going up, not down. We've wasted millions on that. Other than as a quasi military airport it serves no purpose. I mean it's lucky to get a flight a day that's not military.
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closecall
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Posted 12:06 am, 04/25/2018
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187,500 that don't come out of tax payers pocket . Sorry, fat fingered it again .
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closecall
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Posted 12:02 am, 04/25/2018
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25x175. = 4375 x 12 = 52,500 which is 187,500 less than 240,000 so that's 187,000 that don't have to come out of tax payers pocket . I know they're only metal sheds but they are huge to accommodate a plane and I'm sure the plane owners aren't allowed to build their own there . My point is kinda same as yours that all this to for the luxury of said 75 is ludicrous to me . The more they pull out of that rich mans pocket the less us working stiffs will have to cover . Do it , I bet they pay when they throw a fit and county says pay it or tie it down outside and hope for the best .
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aFicIoNadoS
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Posted 10:35 pm, 04/24/2018
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Hangers are nothing but metal garden sheds. $300 to $350 might work, but $800 a month is too high. But, the rent is meaningless. 25 hangers times $800 times 12 months is $240,000 a year. That barely covers half of the costs for the airport on its cheapest years. Now personally, I think the 29 planes a day is incorrect. It’s interesting that Payne has never said anything to try to confirm this number. But let’s say it’s correct. So let’s take 26 planes stored at the airport and add 8 hangers, making it 34 total. Then let’s add 29 planes using the airport every day. Now even if these numbers are correct, the reality is many of those 29 would be of the 34 stored at the airport. So the county is paying for a luxury for less than 75 people.
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closecall
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Posted 9:02 pm, 04/24/2018
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Jack you're probley right about most of them belonging to second home owners , I hadn't put much thought in that . I usually don't post much but read this site daily and I remember one of the post saying they were most likely lying about take offs and landings to get more funding . That makes perfect sense . That makes even more sense to put the rent up where it belongs .The commissioners won't do that because they don't want to upset the rich folk .
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jack rip her
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Posted 8:47 pm, 04/24/2018
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Close I'm not convinced that all those planes belong to full time residents but rather rich *** second home owners. There used to be 32 planes out there renting. It appears the number of planes has decreased. They have lied about the take offs and landings for years too.
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closecall
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Posted 8:37 pm, 04/24/2018
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Sassy , I don't think I did . I get what you're saying but I'm not talkin land for cattle to graze or a shed to put your tractor in . Check prices on rent especially run down single wides . And most low income family's can't afford an 800 month house that would meet their needs for room . That was the best price I found when searching after I sold last place around 3 years ago and I was going to rent until found what and where I wanted . I'm pretty sure it hasn't got cheaper in 3 years . I truly believe they're robbing the poor to middle class and they kiss the rich guys *** . I say price it what I stated earlier and if they don't want their plane out in the weather they will pay it ... Other wise it's out in the weather . I mean which one of them gives a **** if my tractor is out in the weather . I don't care if their plane is , so stop using my tax dollars to cater to them . They do nothing to cater to me . You get my drift now ?
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jack rip her
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Posted 8:19 pm, 04/24/2018
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I agree with close on the hanger rent. Its not like there is a airport on every corner with a hanger to park a 250 thousand plane in. 175 a month is too cheap.
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sassy62
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Posted 8:00 pm, 04/24/2018
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Close, I think you got carried away on the hager rate. The cost of a plane and a big tractor are similar. Rent for a barn and the farmland that goes with it are not up to even close to $800 a month. Expensive equipment should not require expensive storage.
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closecall
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Posted 7:28 pm, 04/24/2018
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Sorry , got a little sloppy and fat fingered it in last post . Month ,not moth and airplane , not a p and. Stupid spell check got me . I also wasn't meaning anything wrong with single wides as it might have sounded . I meant what they charge for very old ones with numerous problems or literally about to fall down .
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closecall
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Posted 7:13 pm, 04/24/2018
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Yes sassy , go with Eastwood . He's my favorite actor . Now as far as the rent on hangers , it seems that the folks that can afford a plane should cough up at least 800 to 1000 bucks a month . I mean really people are starving low income family's to death with rent on junk like single wides for 550 to 650 a moth . I checked and the average rent on a small storage unit in this county is 60 to 100 month depending on size . How on Gods green earth would anyone ever come up with 150 to 175 month on a p,and hanger ? Seriously wth is wrong with people ?
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sassy62
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Posted 7:01 pm, 04/24/2018
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In "Heartbreak Ridge" , Eastwood said it was: improvise, adapt, overcome. I say we go with Eastwood.
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jack rip her
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Posted 6:54 pm, 04/24/2018
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And we just keep blowing tax money on that landing strip. Why not start charging for take offs and landings?
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Olejoe
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Posted 6:12 pm, 04/24/2018
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From the AP&T:
RALEIGH �" The Ashe County Airport received $350,000 in state and federal funding to acquire land and to purchase existing hangars, according the N.C. Board of Transportation. The land that Ashe County Airport plans to acquire is approximately 8 acres, according to Airport Director Eric Payne. "It’s right at about 8 acres and it has five hangars on it," Payne said. "Basically we need more hangar space here, we have people wanting hangars and there aren’t enough hangars."The airport currently has 17 hangars. Payne said that the soon to be acquired hangars will be "as good if not better" than the ones currently owned by the county. The Ashe County Airport recently received approval from the Ashe County Board of Commissioners to raise rental rates on county owned hangars from $150 per-month to $175 per-month. The N.C. Board of Transportation in March approved state and federal funding for 10 airports for a total investment of $12.2 million.“Grants such as these make sure we maintain that link between our state and national and global markets,” said NCDOT Director of Aviation Bobby Walston. “They keep our 72 public airports safe and able to better serve the pilots, businesses and passengers that rely on them.” Currently the airport houses 26 airplanes and averages 29 air craft operations a day, according to data from AirNav. At least seven percent of the airport's traffic is military related, with that number probably higher due to recent training exercises, according to Payne. "The Ospreys from the (Marine Corps New River Air Station) come here and use us for a lot of training," Payne said.
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Fairplay
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Posted 3:47 pm, 04/24/2018
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I thought it was Adapt, Persevere, Overcome.
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aFicIoNadoS
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Posted 9:35 am, 04/24/2018
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There are plenty of other airports around the Marines could move their exercises to.
Improvise, adapt, and overcome.
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jack rip her
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Posted 9:04 am, 04/24/2018
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The dss budget is where we are pouring 1/3 of our county budget money into. Thats where money needs to be cut. The landing strip was down to 305 thousand this year. It has been as high as 2 million in years past.
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sassy62
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Posted 7:13 am, 04/24/2018
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The airport has become a quasi-military air base. I expect it will remain so for at least the lifespan of the Marine's V-22 Osprey.
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onlyinashe
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Posted 6:23 am, 04/24/2018
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One of the weaker interviews I've read so far this season. Seems to be appealing to a very targeted audience, which I'm not sure will get him through the primary process.
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