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Has the Ashe high school principal been demoted?

ricketshey

Posted 12:33 pm, 06/01/2018

There were 2 positions to be filled: middle school assistant principal and blue ridge assistant principal

All other changes were unnecessary and erratic

She has placed a novice at the high school as principal
She has moved all assistant principals from the high school
So you have no one with leadership exp running the high school and now that person is hiring 2 new assistant principals- that’s erratic

According to the job postings on the school website, there’s no longer a full time athletic director

So...... she’s also cut a position from the high school

Yeah - she knows what she’s doing.

Heels09

Posted 6:01 pm, 05/30/2018

Erratic and misunderstood are two different things

ricketshey

Posted 5:00 pm, 05/30/2018

Heels - that’s exactly what I’m doing. It’s perfectly reasonable to second guess someone’s decision making when it’s this erratic.

Heels09

Posted 4:46 pm, 05/30/2018

Well that is exactly your problem. You are guessing and second guessing without knowing all the facts.

ricketshey

Posted 3:45 pm, 05/30/2018

Heels- no one is arguing that it wasn’t within her authority to make such moves. Is it best practice? Was the timing appropriate? And has she put people where they can best serve and was it all for the betterment of students? My guess is no.

Heels09

Posted 3:09 pm, 05/30/2018

She has every right to make those moves. There was not an open position so there was no hiring process. I don't know if those moves are the right ones to make, but ultimately she can move them every year if needed.

ricketshey

Posted 2:55 pm, 05/30/2018

When Mr. Krider was hired 8 years ago, the process was legitimate. The position was posted and applications were accepted. There were roundS of interviews. Applicants were properly vetted and teachers had input. This move is shady and shows the lack of leadership from
the super.

Heels09

Posted 1:11 pm, 05/30/2018

There is no bias towards elementary schools. All that crap is is parents still living in the past Ashe Central, Beaver Creek, Northwest Districts. Its an alternate reality in their mind.

onlyinashe

Posted 6:14 am, 05/30/2018

Eh?

factsforyates

Posted 6:02 am, 05/30/2018

The current assistant principal at high school who has been promoted to principal interviewed at 3 schools in the county and has only worked at one school. Why would that person who has been at the high school with Krider be able to make a change?


If anyone can remember, that position for the assistant principal at Blue Ridge was posted years ago and her daughter then got Jerry Baker transferred, then the most experienced, for 12 months. All the other schools, including the high school had an 11 month. Now, that Jerry wants to leave and go a director, all schools, all schools are getting a 12 month assistant principal if my sources tell me correctly. Is that right? Why now? Because hers is leaving. Is the board of ed looking that every move is very targeted to helping Blue Ridge?

Lets watch test scores come out. Facts say that she will do whatever she needs to do to make Blue Ridge succeed and Westwood loose. Yates is scared of mt view principal and assistant principal because his dad will be county commissioner again and other has pull in the county too, and that is obvious because every school was touched except his.

Why did she demote Jason and then send an article to high school staff about how wonderful the high school is? Did Jason have a mentor to help him for her office if he was doing poorly? No, because no one there can help him. They are too busy telling her what to do.

ricketshey

Posted 5:52 am, 05/30/2018

Factory to school system = apples to oranges

The BOE is old. Too old. And been serving too long. All of them. And so is the super (too old). We can’t expect 21st century leadership from people who aren’t living in it.

The need for vitality and new ideas and support of the schools as a key component of a strong local economy.

jrscott295

Posted 9:37 am, 05/29/2018

The BOE doesn't seem to have a problem with Ms Yates.

Depends on the job really. I honestly believe that factories, etc would benefit greatly from being run by people who know the job and who have done the various jobs. Knowing how something works on an assembly line gives you a better idea of what it takes. I believe the same is true of most production work and service jobs.

Teaching is not the same sort of job. Nor is private administration the same as public administration. You think teachers are mad now if we tried to run the schools like a private business is run they'd be a lot madder. You might be a great business administrator but a very poor public administrator.

ricketshey

Posted 8:40 am, 05/29/2018

Jr - 3 members of the BOE are former teachers - none with administrative exp.
Aren't you contradicted yourself when you say their exp as teachers makes them
strong BOE members?

jrscott295

Posted 7:59 am, 05/29/2018

FINS very doubtful. Unlike Methodist or Baptist the LDS Church audits all branches and wards. Like the Catholic church they have a much stronger central control over what is taught and what is done.

The further the Scouts have departed from the teachings that the LDS Church has had the more of the rustling of the leaves so to speak about change has been heard. The LDS church makes changes very slowly. I would say though that the decision was probably already made to leave prior to the announcement that Girls would be allowed into troops. Perhaps even a year or two before. It's just that they had not yet revealed it to members or publicly. They had started the process back when first gay scouts were allowed and then gay leaders to be blunt. It is possible the announcement of girl inclusion hastened the public announcement.

The Branch/Ward funds that were going to support the BSA probably will go into supporting their new Young Men's program and the money will be more evenly distributed between the Young Men and Young Women, whereas the Young Men through BSA has received a disproportionate amount of funding in the past.

This wouldn't necessarily preclude parents still choosing to pay for a troop etc, but that is a lot of work and very costly. It is also very difficult to get enough parents to do it to keep troops alive. It wouldn't even preclude necessarily them using a church facility for meetings either. Just no direct funds from the church itself.

Now the Boone Methodist Church has announced it will allow girls to start next school year. They are still working out the specifics. I actually know Joseph Cazier who sits on their Council. The Methodist have a great deal more independence than the LDS or Catholic churches but not as much as the Baptist (who had already left the BSA).

AS for the other issue.

Qualities that make a good teacher, do not make a good administrator, and vice versa. Yes it is possible someone might could do both with skill through experience, but generally speaking the skill sets necessary to succeed at both are not complimentary to one another.

There may also be other circumstances we are not aware as to why the decisions were made. I assume the changes would only take place after the present school year, which this is the last week for students, so probably July 1st or thereabouts the changes would take.

Years ago people were trained at the lowest job and worked their way up, that's how my grandfather did. He started in a mail room and then retired as a general manager. He did almost every job imaginable at the factory at one time or another. It was a good way of training people, but we as a country decades ago departed from that model. There are many aspects of administration that do not involve teaching in the case of Superintendent Yates. Most of the Board of Education were teachers or administrators in the past and they seem to have faith in her, so I will defer to them unless I hear of some wrongdoing, reassigning personnel is not wrongdoing in itself.

Joseph T.

Posted 8:33 pm, 05/28/2018

So when is krider supposed to move because he is still at the high school?

ricketshey

Posted 10:13 am, 05/27/2018

Jr, readiness for any position is paramount. In a school system, that readiness includes administrative degrees and training. This point can not be argued logically (especially by someone who doesn’t know the correct forms of “to” and “too”). Someone with proper training and readiness would not have removed a principal and removed an assistant principal from the same school at the same
time. Nor would someone with adequate training place someone as leader of a high school who hasn’t had other principal exp.

Heels09

Posted 10:57 am, 05/25/2018

Well, JR, continue to think that way and watch the rest of the world pass right by. That mentality is the reason Ashe has been stuck in the mud for 30 years.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:04 am, 05/25/2018

Jr, my info on the subject comes straight from Council headquarters. Yes, the LDS announcement was a big shock to everyone. I havent gotten any info on why they made that decision. I dont think their decision had anything to do with the new co-ed program because packs have the option to still be male only, if the charter organization wishes. But I dont know if BSA will be able to survive that loss. I also havent heard if LDS churches will have the option to keep their scouting programs if they want. See, they have always used it as their boys youth program but could keep their charters without it being their youth program.

jrscott295

Posted 9:37 am, 05/25/2018

I've seen far to many college graduates that had no marketable skills. To many that spent to much getting a degree that will never provide the resources to pay off their debt, and now they whine to the government wanting to have forgiveness, so everyone else can pay for their mistakes.

I've seen to many high school graduates that couldn't count change back to or do basic math without a device.

Just because someone lacks a specific degree doesn't mean they don't have the skills necessary to do the job. I could probably teach better than some of the teachers with degrees, after all I did spend years teaching Sunday School to both children and adults, as well as Elder's Quorum but I don't have a degree in it.

I'm not sure if Yates is doing a good job or bad job. Administration jobs are often stressful. You have to make decisions, and no matter what decisions you make someone isn't going to be happy with the decisions you made. It's a thankless job really.

I don't think the current system of scoring schools is appropriate. It lacks in depth. It also places to much emphasis on improvement year to year, but the higher you are the harder it is to find significant improvements and you plateau.

I also argue that many jobs in this country outside of STEM could be done by almost anyone without a degree provided they were willing to learn. There was a government push to push for college degrees and pressure on industry to raise standards of hiring, but a lot of degrees today are what I call junk degrees. Sorry someone with a degree in say Afriakan American Studies, or Medieval Europe are no more qualified to be a manager or supervisor than someone that started working straight out of high school. I'd almost bet the later would do better as a manager than the former.

ricketshey

Posted 6:16 am, 05/25/2018

Her lack of education is important and her lack of exp and knowledge of school cultural is important. Her job is to lead the schools going FORWARD- she just set the HS back - by YEARS and caused a disruption in other schools right before testing. Yeah, she’s got it under control...

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