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Has the Ashe high school principal been demoted?

Heels09

Posted 5:58 am, 05/25/2018

There is a significant difference between the pay of someone with a college degree and someone without. There is also a significant difference between the unemployment rates between those groups. For those who have worked hard to get a degree, its not just a piece of paper. I am very proud of my degree and feel sorry for anyone that thinks a degree is not valuable. I agree not everyone is made for college, but don't belittle anyone that has obtained a degree.


I will just leave this with you. I know someone who drove two young men to ASU and forced them to apply after they finished their degree at WCC(Back in the 1990s). Both had no intentions of furthering their education and were happy being mechanics and a doomed factory. This person saw how much potential these two men had and pushed them to go beyond their own aspirations. Both still in the area, both finished their degrees, and neither set foot in a factory again and that one move jump started their careers. Both have seen their class mates from Wilkes, go though closing after closing. So don't give me that BS that degrees are not valuable.

jrscott295

Posted 5:13 am, 05/25/2018

Degrees are not needed for many things that are required to have one today. All that means is you in most cases were stupid enough to go into debt to get a piece of paper, making yourself an indentured servant.

FINs actually I think Rowe is right.

Also Venture Scout was only one of 4 co-ed programs. Sea Scouts, Exploring and Learning for Life are the other three.

The BSA have been shedding members for years. However the loss of the LDS Church as a sponsoring charter member at the end of 2019 is going to be a blow it may never recover from fully. The LDS Church sponsors almost as many troops as all other charter member organizations combined. If the Methodist and Catholic churches also pull out, it'll be a near deathblow to the organization.

Incidentally my dad was my Boy Scout Leader, my mom was my Cub Scout Leader. That was over 30 years ago though.

sassy62

Posted 10:53 pm, 05/24/2018

Good job Publicinformation. Common sence raises its head again. Common sence will not be denied for long. Too many citizens want it to rule the day.

publicinformation

Posted 10:35 pm, 05/24/2018

What your data indicates is that with the previous superintendents - all those things made them better qualified .

The good job she is doing proves they mean nothing.

ricketshey

Posted 1:23 pm, 05/24/2018

Data can be picked apart - although it looks solid


Facts:
Current super has not been: a teacher, assistant principal or principal - doesn't hold advanced degrees
HS principal: teaching exp, assistant principal exp, lower grades principal and obv HS experience - holds advanced degrees

draw your own conclusions

sassy62

Posted 9:33 pm, 05/20/2018

Careful Fins, few people want to accept that common sence and pragmatism have any place in our country today. Most want to swing too far in the right or the left. Common sence is usually closer to the middle.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 2:34 pm, 05/20/2018

Your continuing to cut and paste doesn’t change the flaw in the article you keep touting. Let me break it down for you. By not ranking all schools, it prevents the ability to actually compare and understand the reviews. They could easily give gold silver and bronze scores to any school that meets those qualifications, but still rank all schools. The report is incomplete.

Jr, Rowe is uninformed on his rantings. First of all, BSA has allowed female members for decades. They have had the venture scouting program for many years, which is a co-ed program for ages 14 and up. The big decision to allow girls into BSA was in the Cub Scout program. That’s grades kindergarten through 5th grade. But the girls and boys are supposed to still be in separate dens. But I’ll go further and tell you why this decision was made. Because men are deadbeats. Most cubscout leaders are moms because fathers don’t want to do it. Also, many of these mothers are single mothers with other kids and have no one to watch their daughters while taking their sons to scouts. So these daughters are already at Cub Scout meetings and are involved in the packs and already doing the same activities and requirements, but could not get any awards for their work. This has nothing to do with blending genders or taking away any identities.

cutworm

Posted 10:22 am, 05/20/2018

aFicIoNadoS (view profile)

Posted 10:42 am, 05/19/2018

Y’all should go through the list and see what schools weren’t even ranked. Then maybe you’ll see the problem with the list.

aFicIoNadoS (view profile)

Posted 10:39 am, 05/19/2018

You have the right to be wrong

Not wrong, maybe just a little better informed this time. I agree there are schools listed as "unranked" who have very high scores, but in reading the information provided by USNWR, extra emphasis was placed on how a school worked with its disadvantaged students. So those schools who were unranked failed in at least one of the four criteria laid out below. You are free to disagree with their research methods or to disagree with their findings, but I rather suspect RTI (the NC research firm behind the rankings) knows a little about what they are doing. But you will have to take your disagreement up with them. I'm only passing along their findings.


What follows is the description of the four part ranking system they used and is copied directly from their faq's page:

6. How were schools evaluated using the four-step process? What data and/or indicators were used to identify the high schools?

Analysts from RTI, who implemented the U.S. News comprehensive rankings methodology, used several indicators to determine which high schools met the four-step criteria as outlined in the Best High Schools rankings methodology. These indicators include:

Step 1: Overall performance of students on state tests

Performance index for each high school in each state (all students)

An index that measures the mastery of state tests, with full credit awarded to proficient scores, additional credit awarded to more advanced scores and partial credit awarded to scores approaching proficient. This performance index was computed for each high school based on student performance on 2015-2016 state reading and mathematics assessments.

Economically disadvantaged students as a percent of total enrollment

A measure of student poverty, which is typically the percentage of each high school's total enrollment receiving free or reduced-price lunch. This used federal data from the U.S. Department of Education's website.

Risk-adjusted performance index

Each high school's residual, which measured the degree to which a high school differed from its statistically expected performance on reading and mathematics assessments, given the proportion of economically disadvantaged students, was used to establish a performance zone.

High schools with risk-adjusted performance index values at or above the upper threshold of the performance zone of one-third of a standard deviation were considered performing beyond expectations. These schools passed Step 1 of the U.S. News methodology and advanced to Step 2.

Absolute performance

A school could also pass Step 1 by performing in the top 10 percent of schools in its state on reading and mathematics assessments, regardless of its poverty level. In addition, a school was barred from passing Step 1 if it performed in the bottom 10 percent of schools in its state.

Step 2: Identify high schools that performed at or better than the state average for their historically underserved students

Combined reading and mathematics proficiency rate for historically underserved student subgroups for each high school

Reading and mathematics proficiency rate is a weighted average of the percentage of students for each group at or above the proficient level.

State average combined reading and mathematics proficiency rate for historically underserved student subgroups

A weighted state average for the historically underserved student subgroups was calculated using student subgroup performance across all high schools in the state.

Historically underserved students performance gap differential

The differential between a school's historically underserved student performance index and the state average for that index. Only values greater than or equal to zero meet the criteria for selection.

Values greater than or equal to zero indicated that a high school's historically underserved student subgroups outperformed the state average. Values lower than zero meant that a high school's historically underserved student subgroups performed worse than the state average.

High schools that do as well as or better than the state average

High schools with historically underserved student subgroups that performed as well as or better than the state average advanced to Step 3. That is, all high schools that had a value of zero or higher for the historically underserved student proficiency gap differential passed Step 2.

High schools that passed Step 1 and did not have historically underserved student subgroups automatically moved to Step 3.

Step 3: Identify schools that have surpassed a basic standard for high school graduation rates

High school graduation rate

For the 2018 rankings, a school's graduation rate reflects the 2016 graduation cohort, which is made up of students who entered ninth grade in the 2012-2013 school year.

National standard graduation rate

High schools were only allowed to pass Step 3 if their rounded graduation rate was 80 percent or greater. This U.S. News standard was drawn from federal law that requires states to give additional resources to schools that do not achieve higher than a 67 percent graduation rate.

Schools without a graduation rate value were allowed to pass Step 3 to account for varying state rules regarding which high schools receive a calculated graduation rate, since each high school has limited control over this.

Step 4: Performance on college-level AP and IB exams to determine national gold, silver and bronze medal winners

AP and IB participation percent

The percentage of 12th-graders in 2015-2016 who took at least one AP or IB exam at some point during high school �" the number of students who took AP or IB tests divided by the total number of 12th-graders enrolled at the school. In schools where results for both AP and IB were reported, both participation rates were calculated.

Quality-adjusted AP and IB participation percent

The percentage of 12th-graders in 2015-2016 who took and passed at least one AP and IB exam at some point during high school �" the number of students tested who received at least one score of 3 or higher on an AP test or 4 or higher on an IB test, divided by the total number of 12th-graders enrolled at the school. In schools where results for both AP and IB were reported, both quality adjusted participation rates were calculated.

College Readiness Index to determine gold, silver and bronze medal winners

An unrounded index �" presented at one decimal place in the published rankings online �" that measures the degree to which a school's students are exposed to, and pass, some college-level material (a weighted average of AP and IB participation, weighted at 25 percent of the CRI, and the quality-adjusted AP and IB participation rate, weighted at 75 percent of the CRI).

For schools that reported both AP and IB results, U.S. News created a blended CRI that gave a proportionally larger weight to the program that had a higher participation count.

Only CRI values greater than 21.51 �" the 2018 Best High Schools median CRI �" meet the criteria for selection as gold and silver medal winners.

Gold medal high schools are simply the top 500 high schools that met this CRI criteria; the 2,211 schools ranked 501 through 2,711 �" the silver medal schools �" also met this CRI criteria. An additional 3,237 high schools that passed the first three steps in the methodology were awarded bronze medals and are listed alphabetically.

A tiebreaker was used when schools have the same unrounded CRI so that each school has a different number rank.

The tiebreaker measures the degree to which students take and pass a wide variety of AP and IB courses across the multiple disciplines for which AP and IB offers tests.

For more information, see the U.S. News Best High Schools rankings methodology, or read the much longer and more detailed technical appendix that RTI produced.

Heels09

Posted 8:49 am, 05/20/2018

Jr, you continue to live in the 1980s.

No, the nursing is not government involvement, it is need for a higher skill level. Mostly technology related.

No, insurances do not pick up the slack. I know, because I have sit on the negotiation teams negotiating prices for private insurance. Those contracts pay Medicare level prices per service. However, there are incentives for providing quality health care. It's not the same model as it was. And it's changing rapidly.

jrscott295

Posted 5:15 am, 05/20/2018

You do realize those increased standards for nurses is the government interfering, they'll probably move to other vocations as well. Medicare underpays doctors and hospitals, and private insurance picks up the slack, whether that's contracted or not. Medicaid pays so little most won't take it.

Might want to read Mike Rowe's comments on what he thought of the BSA allowing girls into the BSA. He had some remarkable insights as to what's wrong with our society today.

School rankings are nothing more than the government taking your tax dollars, then deciding to give a disproportionate amount of them to one school over another instead of equally investing in all schools and all students....

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:42 am, 05/19/2018

Y’all should go through the list and see what schools weren’t even ranked. Then maybe you’ll see the problem with the list.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:39 am, 05/19/2018

You have the right to be wrong

Tabs

Posted 10:24 am, 05/19/2018

Have to agree with cutworm on this one.

12. Why is a school not listed or ranked in the 2018 Best High Schools rankings?

Information on more than 20,500 public high schools is accessible online via the U.S. News high schools search function, the state rankings pages, district pages and school profile pages. However, some schools are not included on the Best High Schools website because they were too small or were missing key data.

Each individual school's profile page contains descriptive data, including enrollment, ethnic and economic diversity data, detailed location information, state assessment test statistics and AP and IB data, where applicable.

In terms of the rankings, 5,948 high schools scored high enough in all parts of the rankings methodology to win a gold, silver or bronze medal. That means that 71 percent of the 20,548 U.S. high schools eligible to be ranked did not score high enough to receive a medal, which is the case if a school is not listed as a medal winner.


aFicIoNadoS

Posted 9:52 am, 05/19/2018

I went through the whole article and all the schools for NC. It’s incomplete and meaningless in its form. But you enjoy bragging about it.

cutworm

Posted 7:45 am, 05/19/2018

Fins I admit the terminology that USN uses as "unranked" makes it look as though they did not evaluate the schools receiving an award, but according to their own faq's that isn't the case. If a public high school didn't have 15 or more senior class members it was not evaluated, but otherwise they were evaluated.




2. Was every public high school in the U.S. eligible to be evaluated as part of the rankings?

Yes, all public high schools were eligible and nearly all were evaluated in the process of calculating the rankings.

U.S. News started out reviewing 28,813 public high schools in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. That number was reduced to 20,548 schools that were eligible to be ranked. This is the total number of public high schools that had 12th-grade enrollment of 15 or greater or sufficient enrollment in other high school grades during the 2015-2016 school year to be analyzed.

So the "unranked" were evaluated, but were not recognized. Question #5 in the faq's describes the process and is way too long to post in the thread. However in reading this, the award is based on data from 2015-2016.


aFicIoNadoS

Posted 11:39 pm, 05/18/2018

Worm, you still ignore the part that over 500 schools in NC weren’t even ranked. This shows the list is flawed and incomplete.

scorcer74

Posted 9:59 pm, 05/18/2018

The only positive I see from the change is the superintendent is getting **** Pennington further away? After seeing his actions first hand at the Middle school, to his demotion to assistant at Westwood, (and seeing again) he was worse? Maybe he’s on the hot seat now. People shouldn’t be able to make a career, and benefits by not doing their job and just hiding and being arrogant.

cutworm

Posted 8:04 pm, 05/18/2018

Concerning WHS vs ACHS in the US News rankings: (Not the same district, but gives the answer anyway)


15. Why did a school rank lower in the 2018 Best High Schools rankings than another school in the same district that it outperforms on state tests in terms of the absolute level of results?

The 2018 U.S. News Best High Schools rankings are based on more than just the absolute level of state test results and graduation rates. The rankings take into account the relative performance on state tests of students who are economically disadvantaged and minorities.

This means that in some cases high schools that score lower on state assessment tests will do better in the 2018 Best High Schools rankings than higher-scoring schools. Those lower-scoring schools are actually doing better on their state tests when compared with other schools in their state with a similar level of economically disadvantaged and minority students.

Heels09

Posted 5:34 pm, 05/18/2018

Hospitals are already requiring nurses to have or obtain a Bachelors when hired. Its one of the metrics hospitals are measured on. Some hospitals pay 15% more if they have it. Engineering and technology degrees are the same.

Also, the model of overcharging insurances are over. Service prices are contracted now with the insurance companies. Not only that but competitive markets are keeping prices similar. As a matter of fact, Medicare reimbursement is what keeps small hospitals like Ashe going not insurance payments.

Heels09

Posted 5:12 pm, 05/18/2018

Everything you just said is wrong. 20 years ago, yes.

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