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No BS - truth dood...believe it.

There's no insecurity in calling you out on your bull****. You've already been told if you want to be part of here, cut out the BS.

Fins you are ever-present here but seem hostile and insecure. You aren't a welcoming presence, that's for sure. You seem smart enough but you don't seem to want to let anyone else inside your bubble except for jack and chendo.

I know I'm probably a few years older than you, so I view you sort of like a son type guy who may need a little more metta in his life. I'm just trying to be part of this forum without the hassle of condescension that you put out on a daily basis.

And just when have I not been genuine?

'Not hitting on jack or anybody here - his posts just make me laugh sometimes. I imagine that he speaks in real life the same way he writes in here. I probably wouldn't agree with him on many issues but he at least seems like a genuine original person.

Are you hitting on Jack?

Again you show you aren't as smart as you claim

jack - I'm not one of those "make big clouds of smoke" DIY people who screw around with a device not meant for that purpose. Yeah, I've seen the videos and I'm just a temporary vaper - just trying to quit the cigs.

Btw, jack you are probably my favorite regular poster here. You, at least, seem honest and non hostile (most of the time).

And you would be better off to keep smoking the Marlboros. Ever see one of those things catch fire?

You didn't make a mistake. You were wrong. Then you doubled down on it. I gave you a chance to save your self.

Fins, I'll bet you are just a ton 'o fun in real life to hang out with. Mr. Know It All, just waiting for someone/anyone to make a small misstatement or mistake and then Whamo! - the all knowing fins is right there to denigrate, criticize and correct. I own up to it when I make an error (as I did right here in this very thread when I stated that I misspoke). Pride, vanity, etc. and then eventually that hard fall.

Seriously dood, do you have a wife? A girlfriend? If so, I feel sorry for the poor lass - but I'm guessing not.

Clearly you don't know all about it because you have stated incorrect information multiple times

Fins, did you really need to make 3 posts to prove your picayune point? THC and vitamin E, yeah yeah yeah - I know all about that.

Matters not, my mother's pulmonologist tells me all ingestion of "smoke" is bad for the lungs with vaping just slightly less bad than cigarette smoking...pick your poison. I'm just vaping temporarily to ease off the cigs anyway. I smoked my last Marlboro 2 days ago - whoo hoo! Smoke girl no more (jack) and yes, I feel better already...no hacking nasty smokers cough in the morning. Life is good and getting better every day.

Just to clarify none of them were using THC products that were legal in any state.

And all of the fatal lung damage from vaping was from black market THC fluid. It was cut with vitamin E.

No, you didn't know that tank fluid is still available. You kept saying all, and I gave you enough time to correct yourself that if you had known you would have said so.

Tobacco and menthol flavored vape juice pods are considered terrible tasting by most vapers.

The pods make vaping much more convenient and less messy. And yes, I know you can still buy the big plastic bottles of various flavored juices along with the refillable tanks - I misspoke on that. Still, I doubt Trump's ban on fruity flavored pods will deter the average teen vapehead - they will just quit using Juul and get someone over 21 to go buy them a tank and the liquid. The age standard goes up from 18 on Feb. 1st also.

Most of the young people who have ended up with terrible lung problems from vaping aren't just casual mango-flavored pod users - they've almost all been vaping the (illegal here) THC containing juice/pods.

True, but that's not what I was referring to that she missed. The ban is only on pod refills. Tank style vape is still available in flavors. This cut flavored vaping out of convenient stores and grocery stores. But dedicated vape stores still have flavored fluids.

Evidently she hasn't reached the conclusion that 'tobacco' and 'menthol' are flavors...

Homie, read that article over and over until you can figure out where you were wrong in saying Trump banned all flavored vaping