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aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:38 pm, 12/30/2019

The idea that you don't think that big pharma has Bernie and every other democrat in their pockets too is what's sad.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:36 pm, 12/30/2019

But it isn't going to be invested if it's parked in Ireland to avoid taxes either. So, park it in American banks. Because those banks will put it back into the economy. But either way, it's in the US and not a foreign country.

Heels09

Posted 12:30 pm, 12/30/2019

Fins, the problem is they are not investing that money. The idea is the money remains in the US and gets reinvested. That didn't happen. Since that tax cuts, business investment has actually slowed 5 out of the last 6 quarters. That was part of the reason for the Fed cutting interest rates this year. Maybe it is still too soon to tell, but companies are still not investing at home, and that is a huge red flag.

ashehomegrrl

Posted 12:20 pm, 12/30/2019

So you trust Blue Cross but not the guberment? You are just a money making quotient to them every time you use your private insurance. Get sick and it will cost you more next year. Have a pre existing condition and they might just throw you off next year to fend for yourself. There's no security.

Btw, I wouldn't trust the current administration to fix this either because it's too complex a problem for trump to grasp and big money pharma has him in their pocket. It would be nice to at least see a plan put forward but nope, nada, nothing in three years. Again I say, where's the $60/monthly "excellent" coverage trump promised?

Heels09

Posted 12:14 pm, 12/30/2019

We couldn't afford the Corporate tax cuts nor could we afford a universal system. I don't mind being called a liberal because I do believe our government can and should work for the people. I am a strong supporter of most government programs. Yet, I know that we can not continue to add programs we can't pay for. Trump is on pace to match Obama's first term spending. Let that sink in, no recession, best unemployment in years, yet his spending is going to match the previous administration. Not one is talking about the countries debt, and its getting more and more out of control.

pointman

Posted 12:02 pm, 12/30/2019

Heck, the government can't even stop telemarketers. And you seriously want them running my health care?
The US Government actually ran a house of ill repute in Nevada, and couldn't turn a profit.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 12:00 pm, 12/30/2019

I see you don't actually understand those economics magazines you read. Sure, end corporate tax breaks. Then Apple and everyone else can just move their money back to Ireland. What you and Bernie don't get, the corporations were paying less taxes before because they parked their companies in tax friendly countries. At least now they are parking their money in US banks and making it part of the US economy. But instead of understanding that, you just want to blame trump for problems created by Bernie and the other democrats that held power for so long.

ashehikingmom

Posted 11:34 am, 12/30/2019

Our family insurance plan was affordable before the government got involved. Now we just pray none of us get sick! The government doesn't need to be involved in insurance.

ashehomegrrl

Posted 11:26 am, 12/30/2019

Not brainwashed fins, just practical. The healthcare system is broken. I would rather give a Bernie administration that is a least trying to fix it the $1200/month I currently pay my insurance carrier. That's just for me, btw.

Get rid of trumps corporate tax cuts and there's a pile of money to work with. And yes tax the .05% more. They can afford it.

Give an old, thoughtful socialist a chance to tackle healthcare. We've had plenty of fiscally conservative dems in charge who've either taken half measures or who wouldn't touch it. It's going to take a fiscal liberal to clean up the existing mess...yeah, it will be expensive.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:08 am, 12/30/2019

But if insurance companies were forced to stop fixing pricing for healthcare and let the market correct itself, insurance prices would also go down because people wouldn't need it as much. Of course, pharmaceuticals are also a major problem that needs to be fixed too. And insurance controlling payouts to pharmacies is only a small piece of the problem.

Heels09

Posted 9:02 am, 12/30/2019

Fins you are not going to get an argument from me about that, however that is just a drop in the bucket compared to the issue of the uninsured or under insured. There is zero benefit for an insurance company to offer this group insurance because of the risk. Until we can offer an option to this group that keeps them from driving up cost, there is no chance the market will correct itself under the current system.


I will be on board with Free Market adjustment if and only if Insurance companies are eliminated all together. True consumer direct pay for services market. We both know that will never happen.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 8:22 am, 12/30/2019

There hasn't been a free market so far. Insurance companies have limited to no competition. Then they get away with setting prices. And they make it worse through unethical business practices of things like not paying doctors after a claim is filed. That's the things that need to be fixed. If a doctor or hospital doesn't have to submit a claim 3 times and Jack prices up to settle for what the insurance companies sill finally pay, the market could correct itself.

Heels09

Posted 7:30 am, 12/30/2019

Also, its going to take community involvement to keep people healthy. Look at the numbers, Rural America has an epidemic of fast food and buying groceries at Dollar stores.

Heels09

Posted 7:27 am, 12/30/2019

The truth is free markets are not correcting the system either because there is no money to be made in taking care of poor sick people. The solution is going to have to include insurance, healthcare, and government to sit down and work together. We have to find the correct balance of all three. Lift government burden on the healthcare system to reduce costs without sacrificing patient safety. Subsidize the Insurance industry to keep the burden of the very sick, poor, and elderly from driving up premiums. Encourage innovation and reward high preforming healthcare institutions. I know its not that simple but its going to take tax money and sensible government oversight. It is also going to take free market cooperation.


aFicIoNadoS

Posted 11:02 pm, 12/29/2019

Dear god, you are brainwashed. It won't be cheaper. Typical liberal dreaming. Think the government can fix something. The right answer is to let free markets fix costs. Europe taxes the **** out of people and wealthy people still have to buy private plans and private care to get decent healthcare.


The top 1% already pay 40% of the taxes. And the bottom 40% of Americans don't pay any taxes. They actually get more money back. So just who the **** do you want to get more money out of? Just how much more blood do you want to squeeze out of people and punish them for success? That's the major difference with Europe and why they require socialized medicine. They don't encourage entrepreneurship. Their system doesn't support self made success.

ashehomegrrl

Posted 10:45 pm, 12/29/2019

Yes, It's not free, we should ALL be paying for it via taxes. It would work out cheaper to have universal healthcare for all. The European countries got this right...higher taxes but all are covered. I am a high income person who is saying tax me more but make coverage free (or at least affordable) for all. I know I am in the minority here but I truly believe healthcare should be a basic human right for everyone.

Bye, where do all get your insurance coverage and what do you pay a month?

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 10:25 pm, 12/29/2019

Nothing is free. Someone has to pay for it. Bernie's idea would bankrupt the system. Especially since he has nothing that would reduce actual costs. It just changes who pays for it.

ashehomegrrl

Posted 9:21 pm, 12/29/2019

So far Bernie Sanders will get my vote in the primary so - yeah, there are good choices. Healthcare is my #1 priority and concern as a voter and he has a plan that will make healthcare a basic human right. Big picture, it's the right thing to do. Being bankrupted due to a health issue that you cannot control shouldn't be happening in the richest country on earth.

I went to see a doctor in France and it cost me $50. It's free for the French folks. Wouldn't that be nice?

ashehomegrrl

Posted 8:36 pm, 12/29/2019

Lol, fins - I don't want to make your cut, though you are interesting enough to possibly be my friend.

I am happily married to a great man. I dearly love him and we've been together for just over 10 years now. I think I must be older than you but my tatas are still perky and I am a good lookin woman for my age. I still get male attention from strangers in many ways. No way you could compete with my current partner. I'm not talking Last Picture Show here but back in the day I rode through the Ashe County Christmas parade with a crown on my pretty head. Being a good looking and smart woman gave me a lot of opportunities and I took them. I'm ok with that because if I was born ugly, I probably wouldn't have done so well financially because it was the caveman era.

aFicIoNadoS

Posted 8:32 pm, 12/29/2019

There sure ain't anyone on the DNC ticket we need. For now Trump is still the best option. Get over it.

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