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Drain the swamp. Throw the bums out....pricks.

Personally I don't really care what they pay anyone over there so long as they are not taking county money. If I thought this was a one time bail out then that would be the end of it. However, our county manager has indicated that this may become a continuing expense for our county. I believe it is contingent on us, to hold the people that approve these expenses responsible for obtaining and reporting to the tax payers the financial validity of our investment. The entire group of "wanna-bes' seem to like to talk about transparency. Sands has already shown he doesn't believe in that. I will turn my attention to the incoming commissioners and next years budget. Been nice talking with you folks on this subject.

Dog, all I can say is request the audited financials from the CEO or CFO at the hospital, as a 501(c)3 they are required to make those available upon request.

They along with many others watching this informative conversation want to see the true down to the dollar loss.

Farmer, Troll;

Actually there was another $15,507 listed as other compensation for Thore which was likely the benefit portion, I didn't see anything similar for Quorum.

And I'm with NSA, I would like to see a more thorough and up to date listing of the official's salaries as well as the revenue/expenses.

Only, the financials I have found so far tell me little. From their website there is an abbreviated report. Expenditures are shown as:

Wages, Salaries and Benefits : 15.2 M

Med. Supplies: 2.7M

Depreciation & Int.: 1.8M

Professional, Administrative & Other : 6.8M

(Note: rounding applied)

Now where do I find what Makes up Professional, Administrative & Other. I looked at their tax filings as to what was available and they are a few years out of date.

Overall they show a shortfall of just over 500k for the year 2013 and that looks like what the county is almost replacing for them.

Now did our county manager and commissioners check the books and see if those large expenditures categories shown above were in fact relevant to value received by the county? I know that Sands when asked that question simply answers with "we need a hospital". No real justification other than a gut feel.

I also looked at the report of the value of hospitals to counties that was provided by a link in this chain. That report showed a small increase in a county's economy over a two year period after closing of a hospital. That study like many is basically based on averaging techniques of the inputs provided. This methodology provides a general conclusion but is not necessarily applicable to specific cases. This is similar to the value provided by regional airport study that is a computer generated value for the secondary and tertiary benefits. Such studies just do not accurately provide specific case projections, only what must be considered as estimates.

Like I said, not necessarily opposed to hospital but would like to see an independent value analysis.

Farmer, the fee paid to Quorum for the management of the facility included the salary and benefits of the individual assigned to that facility during that time, I believe his name was R.D. Williams. the Salary quoted for Joe Thore would also include all benefits such as employer match for any retirement program and the employer portion of health insurance FICA and any other tax matches required.

I blew right by that page and didnt see it. Liquor is the blame.
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They are on page 7, an entire list. Most are probably still on the board and most receive no compensation. A couple of Foundation members received small compensation amounts.

Seems the trustees are hidden well.

I removed a few posts that were off topic and/or trolling.

The last 990 for the Ashe memorial Hospital Foundation I could locate is also from 2012. It list Joe Thore's salary as $90,851 from the hospital and $15,507 from the foundation, a total of $106,358 (page 8). the link is http://990s.foundationcente...09_990.pdf

If you want qualified people, just elect a board comprised of all truckers....

And as for Bruno, he's a nice enough good ole boy but not educated enough, nor intelligent enough, to provide adequate representation.

The last 990 I could find for Ashe Memorial Hospital was from 2012. At that time, Quorum Health Resources was the management company and they were receiving $329,726 for management services (page 8). Other that that, he only key officials salaries listed appeared to be doctors and physicians assistants. Board members at that time are listed on page 7.

I only skimmed the document but found it interesting that they were paying $29,108 in rental storage space to a company owned by employee Joe Thore (page 50). The link for the document is http://990s.foundationcente...09_990.pdf

The hospital was operating in the red at that time and has done so for a number of years. The indigent population as well as the migrant workers tax the system as do a number of other things. the county also gave the hospital money back around 2007-2008 to the tune of $250,000. The signs were paid for by the hospital.

Only, you seem quite well versed in the operation of AMH. So name the board members.

Also how about speaking to the subject of uncompensated care. The law of the land requires EVERYONE to have insurance; therefore, we pay the price to provide vouchers to those in need and again pay the hospital.

I agree the hospital should be a benefit to the county in attracting second home and retiring people. However, I am tired of officials not doing their jobs and questioning the expenditures of county funds. Like the mule from Missouri, show me.

Are you a present or former board member Only?