sheriffs empire is crumbling
Basking
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Posted 11:28 am, 05/18/2015
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There's a woman out of watauga that has performed audits for several organizations in both counties that would do it for a lot less than $10k. She gets off on such audits
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crestonflash
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Posted 9:42 am, 05/18/2015
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Aw Shucks | Posted 9:12 am, 05/18/2015 | There's another larger problem with the way the fire departments operate. It's my understanding that once the funds are turned over to them if the department's board of directors approves an expenditure then it isn't considered a misuse. So theoretically if the board authorizes the payment of tuition or payment of personal bills then it isn't embezzlement. |
It could be considered malfeasance if they spent money outside of their stated mission, IE provide fire protection.and EMS, fire prevention, etc
A full audit could/would cost $10,000 +/- Best case scenario is to have an outside accountant view the policies and procedures and a perfunctory inspection of the books and pass an opinion. This would cost less than $1,000. Or in the case of several organizations I have belonged to in other counties and states, have an internal audit committee view the books, receipts, etc.
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Aw Shucks
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Posted 9:12 am, 05/18/2015
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There's another larger problem with the way the fire departments operate. It's my understanding that once the funds are turned over to them if the department's board of directors approves an expenditure then it isn't considered a misuse. So theoretically if the board authorizes the payment of tuition or payment of personal bills then it isn't embezzlement.
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underdog2
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Posted 9:03 am, 05/18/2015
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To add to the agents statement, if I were a check signer in the organization I would want an audit.
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secretagent
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Posted 8:47 pm, 05/17/2015
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If I wee a treasurer of any organization I would ask that an audit be taken just so everyone knew that things were on the up and up. And, if I were a member of an organization where an audit wasn't being asked for by the treasurer, I for one would be suspicious of that particular treasurer.
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Basking
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Posted 7:33 pm, 05/17/2015
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The hose jockeys have convinced the communities that they are special, and money belongs to them instead of the tax payers. I think it comes from those years that the vfds were run on donations only.
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underdog2
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Posted 2:59 pm, 05/17/2015
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I feel sure the school board, dss all have audits performed because they are funded by tax payers. Now what on this earth are the commissioners thinking or have been told to think as to why the fire departments are not doing yearly audits? Why do these hose jockey boys clubs think they are above having an audit performed?
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Basking
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Posted 1:51 pm, 05/17/2015
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If the people in charge of these accounts are honest and had half a brain, they would insist on audits for their own protection.
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Farmer28
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Posted 12:22 pm, 05/17/2015
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I agree Agent. the only sure way of knowing is with an audit - something that should have been done long ago.
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secretagent
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Posted 10:05 pm, 05/16/2015
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Stick with that story and it will all be OK.
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secretagent
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Posted 9:14 pm, 05/16/2015
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Without an audit, no one knows. Only the Shadow knows.
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Fire2
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Posted 1:26 pm, 05/16/2015
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I only know of two departments where this has happened locally and the other department had the person prosecuted.
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secretagent
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Posted 6:14 am, 05/16/2015
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Here is a math question to which I have never found an answer. Help me understand this. Why is it when someone in charge of keeping the books for an organization makes a simple math error (or years of math errors) those errors never benefit anyone other than the one making the errors? It would seem that the law of averages would dictate that as often as not, the organization or company would be the one to come out ahead.
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Basking
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Posted 10:18 pm, 05/15/2015
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It's at least 3. But with one of them, I believe it was never clarified if it was sticky fingers or a case of stupidity on the part of the chief's wife who didn't know how to do simple math
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underdog2
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Posted 9:09 pm, 05/15/2015
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Help me count here. Is this not 3 departments with members that have sticky fingers? Yet the mouth breathers for years now have never told them to have audits in the county managers office by a certain date. They are just as guilty as the sticky fingered hose jockeys.
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secretagent
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Posted 8:36 pm, 05/15/2015
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Been said here before. Any organization needs to have at lest an annual audit of their finances performed. It is just good business practice. I would think that any person holding the office of treasurer would welcome such an audit. And, since tax dollars are involved, the County should demand such an audit. But obviously this has not been the case. Even after some of the local departments have had their financial dirty laundry exposed. there still is a lack of accountability. Sad on the surface. Irresponsible of the Mouth Breathers. Make one wonder what other holes there are in the County money bucket.
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Basking
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Posted 7:49 pm, 05/15/2015
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The community residents should demand an audit and prosecute if money was taken. These ignorant hose jockeys need to learn the fire house isn't their private club and the money isn't their private bank account. It belongs to the tax payers
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UP4IT
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Posted 7:20 pm, 05/15/2015
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Facts or hillbilly gossip?
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Fire2
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Posted 4:45 pm, 05/15/2015
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He resigned from the squad and is a member at Fleetwood fire. I have heard that a member used some fund to pay for either tuition or books for a family member but I don't know if Winters was on the department when it happened or not. Either way, I'm certain he has heard the same and for a department not to prosecute a member for taking money is shameful and for a sheriff candidate to remain on such a department is also shameful.
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